grizz
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Post by grizz on Jan 23, 2011 20:41:55 GMT
I will copy and paste into this thread as build thread for the bike. Loads of pics to be added later. Please add any information, and if you know where parts are going cheap, or free, please let me know. There are a few bits missing and some bits knackered. What you see in the photos is what I was given today. This will be 100% learning for me. The head is seized, and I could not get the plug out with modderate force earlier. Got to meet up with Kev today, and have to say, what a thoroughly decent and knowlegable chap. I had my mate Kevin use his wife's car to tow my lightweight bike trailer to fetch the Bantam Kev gave me ( he had rescued it from the crusher recently), a lovely 200 mile return road trip. Look in Kev's signature for the other bikes he has, including a stonking Kawasaki Z1000 MkII and a BSA with a neat story. The other bike that took my fancy was a little Yellow gem of a Honda (a bike I had incidentally had on my Ebay watch list a few weeks ago) I can now say that I have FREE BSA Bantam D7 with a seized head to restore. Thanks to England-Kev. My wife is not convinced, but hopefully she will allow me to get it back to running, and much later do a cosmetic resto or clean up. In the mean time I will start looking for bits and pieces that are missing off it. Read more: www.retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=othrmod&action=display&thread=96377#ixzz1BtQh99fo
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Post by davytelford on Jan 23, 2011 21:46:29 GMT
she's in ermmm bad shape but looks fixable hows the wife's reaction here's a site that'll tell you everything spares and history www.mistgreen.com/spares.htm
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grizz
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Post by grizz on Jan 24, 2011 9:50:36 GMT
Have a few pics taken when we collected the bike. Kev's very Rare in the UK, Honda 90 , it is a USA import that I had been watching on Ebay too. Having seen some of his other bikes, I know this one will be a good one too. Kevin and Kevin discussing what a bike with two rear sprockets can get up to with a postal delivery guy on it, or out hunting on the farm. Note the two sprockets at the rear, one bolts over the other, and then you splice a section of chain in to lengthen the chain, and hey presto...... low range. Loaded Bantam. Just what have I let myself in for ?? The long road home....... Parked up at home in the garage..... it will stay here for a bit till I know what to do and what I need. More detailed pics later.
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Post by cerberus73 on Jan 24, 2011 11:37:07 GMT
i recognise that CT90... think your mate kev is on the C90club forums, lovely wee thing. still would love a modern aussie postie bike the CT110
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grizz
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Post by grizz on Jan 24, 2011 17:31:12 GMT
i recognise that CT90... think your mate kev is on the C90club forums, lovely wee thing. still would love a modern aussie postie bike the CT110 Could be him, he was saying he would love a 110, and the better front end etc.
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grizz
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Post by grizz on Jan 24, 2011 20:26:03 GMT
Right, now for some detail pics. What you see is what I have , no spares, and the missing or rotten bits are the bits I will be needing to see this bike back together. Keeping in mind I want..... no NEED to do it on a shoestring, being unemployed etc, buying brand new parts or trading vital organs for bits aint gonna happen. Side engine cover missing, and probably everything inside there rotten. Chain will get a diesel bath and soak, then a decent wash (maybe in the wife's dishwasher indoors) OK, who knows Sammy Miller ? Original number board hints at history of this bike, which I do not know yet. Home made footpegs, corrosion, and exhaust tell part of the story. I want to flip the exhaust up to be high level, and will make up a heatshield for it from some ally I have here, or modify something else. Rear subframe was "modded" with a 10 pound hammer or something similar. Ideally it needs replacing. The seat also needs significant editing I would say. Rear shocks will probably get replaced if I can get a decent set. Rear view, needs a bit of magic. Front view. Handlebars and throttle assembly have probably seen their best days. Front and rear wheels are both 19" items, surely not correct. I plan to sand them down and paint, either black or silver Hammerite, spokes are only in need of a clean up. Hobs need to be checked. Loads of little dents on the tank, rusted inside, and sticker stating " Bantam Super " was painted over at some point. Happy to clean up the tank and repaint it, and clean the inside with modern rust agents and seal it, unless I find a really decent replacement tank. Seat has a large rip that could be micro sewed up, or replaced. Lastly for tonight, I am led to believe this is a competition head on there, enough reason to fix it all up. There you go then, that is the story to date. Tomorrow I am in London for most of the day, but hope to find the engine and frame numbers by the weekend. In the mean time, keep fingers crossed that mirracles happen around this lovely little bike.
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Post by davytelford on Jan 24, 2011 22:02:00 GMT
did you find that site helpful at all
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Post by TerraRoot on Jan 25, 2011 10:15:35 GMT
Are you going on the road with this or competition? Engine looks so simple, i'd just clean the carb and check the points gap an see if it ran from there.
Don't forget to premix!
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jonw
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Post by jonw on Jan 25, 2011 11:28:48 GMT
Good find sir!!
Bantams are very simple and parts are very redily available. The wheels look correct, both being the same size is normal (my cub is the same).
Also check out triumph tiger cub parts. The later (Bantam Cub) ones used the same bantam frame and came with a huge variety of trials bits.
I'd check the bottom end of the engine. Make sure that's ok.
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grizz
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Post by grizz on Jan 26, 2011 11:39:03 GMT
Well, not much progress yet, as there are loads of other things keeping me busy. Last night I had about an hour in the garage, so I managed to feed the chain through the front sprocket, spray all the nuts and bolts. My nieghbour had popped over for a while, and watched me try to get the sparkplug undone..... using an old spanner I had, with a 12 inch pipe for extra leverage. All I managed to do was to snap the porcelain head on the plud, and tear the metal of the old spanner, but not move the plug, he then fetched his one spanner, which still made no difference. Who knows? Could the plug and the ally of the head have fused together over the years, or could oxidation have taken this to a point where they are a fused unit ? If so, what is the next step, as I am not a fan of excessive force. The other thing I quickly assembled (still to be tested) was a "paddock stand" which is fitted on a pair of stove moving wheels/castors so that I can plonk the bike on there and start disassembling at some point. I hope it works, as the bike obviously has no side or centre stand
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Post by cerberus73 on Jan 26, 2011 12:49:55 GMT
Sammy Miller is the owner of one of the largest and best collections of motorcycles in the country, usually exotic racing stuff, from british bikes, continentals and fancy japanese hardware, he was a belfast born Road race and Trials Rider. but from 1964 he started a bike parts business, so the numberplate will prob just be one of his products.. lol unfortunately it wont mean it was one of his trails winning machines... if it was it be worthy of a proper nut n bolt resto with a not so limited budget.
regarding your problem with plug... plusgas or halfords shock & unlock, along with some heat, hot, cold, hot, cold, and a proper plug key should budge her, you really don't wanna be stripping out the plughole in the head. take your time, with the proper tools and she will be fine. i pulled apart my T10 in space of 2 days down to nuts and bolts after she had sat in a unheated garage for 39yrs... and with correct tools and use of penetrating oil and a bit of patience (i left oil to soak in for a few days, and kept adding a bit more daily)... i only had to drill out 3 screws that were literally rusted lumps. she will be a nice wee bike when done, and if you scour ebay, and take your time they can be done on the cheap, all the proper wipac switchgear can be had new and isn't dear, same with engine parts, but you will need to find out what variant the engine is from the numbers. so you get correct parts, could be a 125 or a 175cc
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grizz
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Post by grizz on Jan 26, 2011 13:53:13 GMT
Sammy Miller is the owner of one of the largest and best collections of motorcycles in the country, usually exotic racing stuff, from british bikes, continentals and fancy japanese hardware, he was a belfast born Road race and Trials Rider. but from 1964 he started a bike parts business, so the numberplate will prob just be one of his products.. lol unfortunately it wont mean it was one of his trails winning machines... if it was it be worthy of a proper nut n bolt resto with a not so limited budget. regarding your problem with plug... plusgas or halfords shock & unlock, along with some heat, hot, cold, hot, cold, and a proper plug key should budge her, you really don't wanna be stripping out the plughole in the head. take your time, with the proper tools and she will be fine. i pulled apart my T10 in space of 2 days down to nuts and bolts after she had sat in a unheated garage for 39yrs... and with correct tools and use of penetrating oil and a bit of patience (i left oil to soak in for a few days, and kept adding a bit more daily)... i only had to drill out 3 screws that were literally rusted lumps. she will be a nice wee bike when done, and if you scour ebay, and take your time they can be done on the cheap, all the proper wipac switchgear can be had new and isn't dear, same with engine parts, but you will need to find out what variant the engine is from the numbers. so you get correct parts, could be a 125 or a 175cc Thanks a lot, that is really usefull. I will try pull the whole head off over the weekend. The WD soak has been going on the last 4 days.
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Post by TerraRoot on Jan 26, 2011 16:51:43 GMT
When you pull the head off you can soak it with plusgas from the inside, the bowl ought to make a nice receptacle for a gob load of plusgas.
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grizz
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Post by grizz on Jan 26, 2011 17:48:46 GMT
When you pull the head off you can soak it with plusgas from the inside, the bowl ought to make a nice receptacle for a gob load of plusgas. So what is Plusgas ??
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grizz
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Post by grizz on Jan 26, 2011 17:49:08 GMT
For those of you who know how to interpret engine and frame numbers..... here you go. Here are some pics and the numbers I found. Engine number : ED7B 1069 Frame number at the rear of the frame, below the engine mount. Frame number: 90 4315 (looked like 9D 4316 at first) Carburetor has a series of numbers as well, some on the pic, and more on the other side. Amal Carburetor number: 376/300 4 66 Also hoiked it onto the "paddock stand" or is that garage stand. Works a treat, stable and holds the bike. Lastly, removed one of the shocks to measure up for Timolgra. Pic taken next to measuring tape for clarity. Shock - Spring: 8" Long, 2" Diameter. Shock Body total length - 13" Body mounting hole centres @ 11 3/4" Shock mounting points - 1" wide with rubber bushes inside.
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