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Post by Down&Out on Jan 16, 2011 1:26:16 GMT
As I'm sure a few people have realised, i've been looking for a bike for a while now. Well my fruitless search is finally over. Story is that I found this puch maxi on ebay listed for £150, I watched it and expected it to skyrocket. But it didnt sell, so I watched it again considering it and then it randomly ended. I contacted the seller assuming it hadnt sold for a second time and asked if he would sell it to me outside of ebay, but I got a snotty rude reply where he treated me like a timewaster, claiming that someone had walked into his shop and bought it there and then. I mentioned the bike/rude ebayer when I bumped my wanted topic and low and behold the guy who'd bought it was on retrorides, he pm'd me, I arranged to buy it and here we are. Pictures:     Proper timewarp. From what I can see it needs a new headlamp because its got a hole through the front, it also needs the rear brake adjusting and the front brake either needs the existing cable attaching, or a new one. The sprocket seems to be broken too, you pedal, and the back sprocket spins but the wheel doesnt. So needs a new sprocket. Need to add a key too, its got a steering lock but from what I can see you just turn the petrol tap on and go. Are these pre-mix? I thought they were but my dad said that when he got the car out some very obviously two stroke oil dribbled out of somewhere. I can safely say its absolutely nothing like my honda melody, feels much more stable, even just sitting on it!  Hope you approve of its retroness nonetheless. Big plans for this one! |
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impstan
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Post by impstan on Jan 16, 2011 18:18:07 GMT
deffo 2stroke mix
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Post by davytelford on Jan 16, 2011 21:16:07 GMT
ahhh so thats what you brought thought the honda cub was the poor mans puch lol
so what are the big plans
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Post by Down&Out on Jan 16, 2011 23:03:06 GMT
Well cubs seem to go for a minimum of £450, they arent cheap at all anymore.
Probably gunna lower it, stretch out the rear a bit when i can afford to, mod the rear fender, 70cc kit and all that.
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Post by cerberus73 on Jan 17, 2011 0:01:23 GMT
on my hunt for go faster goodies for peds, i came across a seller on ebay with a shop selling loadsa parts for the puch maxi... big bore kits, new chrome-work, new lights, sprockets etc, in fact everything i reckon you will need to make that baby stop, go and look great... 70cc big bore kits, 6 port heads etc. performance exhaust, im betting you can get her doing decent speeds for a wee moped. but personally id keep her stock and just restore her to as new nick
cubs can still be had at reasonable cash i just recently bought one for 375 with tax and mot and in fair nick for the age, hunt around if ya want a cub... patience young skywalker... as yoda said
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Post by Down&Out on Jan 17, 2011 20:30:44 GMT
I looked for ages to find a cub, i was lucky to find this at such a price to be honest.
Thing is, i'll have this mot'd, taxed, and modified to the way i want for the same price as a stock cub.
Im using a netherlands site called moparts, its ridiculously cheap.
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Post by Down&Out on Jan 17, 2011 21:18:14 GMT
Right, just went mad on moparts. Got the following on the way: Chrome headlamp, biturbo exhaust, center cover plate (for some luggage space), lockable gas cap, complete dmp 70cc kit inc new carb and all the gaskets i'll need, new cable set, replacement sprocket, two sets of brake shoes, a front stabiliser bar and a puch keyring cos I thought it appropriate. Oh, and two new 2.50x17 semi slick tyres. Gunna be spangly  |
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Post by TerraRoot on Jan 17, 2011 21:49:23 GMT
awesome!
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Post by cerberus73 on Jan 17, 2011 22:07:41 GMT
Hmmmm gonna have to see if that dutch site does bolt on goodies for the wee honda PX50s im looking to acquire... i finally seen my cub properly today, she in not bad nick for a bike her age, least the frame isn't rotten round the suspension mounts... but the seller remembered everything else except the key! so he is getting his other half to take that down to him tomorrow.. then finally i get to have my filthy paws on her.
sounds like you been busy shopping, bet you cant wait to get fettling and tinkering with her. you got me tempted to hunt down a maxi myself. sounds a load of fun and cheap as well.. good cheap fun is always good. only thing is these days with the price of petrol and the economy in general.. old mopeds, cubs and lightweight bikes are going skyward. people that normally would just run a car are getting turned onto the idea of 100+mpg transport... reason i bought a cub was price of a all day bus ticket for city here costs as much as you can fill a cub tank for and have a weeks running instead.. bargain!
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Post by Down&Out on Jan 22, 2011 16:56:12 GMT
Well I fitted a tyre today with tyre levers, I must say that if every tyre fitter in the world had to use levers rather than a machine they'd all be at eachothers throats with rage.
Got the tyre on, reassembled the freewheel so that I could put the wheel back on and I was gunna freewheel it down the hill and see if I could get it started. But for some reason, miraculously the pedals worked. they're tempremental so sometimes you have to push the bike forward to engage the pedals but its a start at least.
Span the wheels with the pedals to try and check for a spark, but no spark and the engine wasnt kicking out compression, which means it wasnt turning over.
I took the left side cover off and found what I believe to be the centrifugal clutch, so I tried spinning that by hand and low and behold it kicked out compression, checked for a spark and it sparked fine, so for some reason the pedals arent turning the engine.
Any ideas what on earth could be wrong?
I'm also not familiar with the proper starting technique, theres a small black lever underneath the left brake lever, my dad thought it was something called a 'decompressor' no idea what that is though.
Ideas?
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derek
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Post by derek on Jan 22, 2011 19:19:48 GMT
A 50cc shouldnt need a decompressor, thats only for large capacity engines. It reduces the compression in the barrel so its easyer to kick
Have a look at this video, he pulls that lever in, then lets go as soon as its running, im guessing it could engage the pedals to the engine?
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Post by TerraRoot on Jan 22, 2011 20:06:11 GMT
Must be a disconnect some where in the transmission to allow you to pedal with out spinning the engine for when you run out of petrol or just need to go somewhere with out the engine. Never played with one of these tho.
tyre irons: you think you have it tough with those piddly little tube tyres? Man sized 180 section tubeless tyres are a lot stiffer, smash a collar bone if they slip. Needless to say i allow no mates/customers around me when im working tyres to save them from my rage!
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Post by cerberus73 on Jan 23, 2011 4:56:41 GMT
puch maxi's do have a decompressor, they were designed when far higher octane petrol was the norm, and the engines were rather high compression ratio. thats why with a little work these quirky little girly bikes can really sing.. and raise a few eyebrows... 60mph can be achieved... not bad for a girly 50... if you join moped army site and do some searching the forums there theres loads on puch maxi and tuning em.
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Post by Down&Out on Jan 24, 2011 20:37:41 GMT
Well it seems ive sorted it.
Moped army were completely unhelpful in basically just telling me to go away and learn how a moped works before I ask a question.
I dismantled the clutch to find out how it worked and found that despite the lever moving, it wasnt pushing on the clutch hard enough. So it just took some major adjusting of the cable for it to work.
I followed by attempting to change the tyre but I managed to puncture the inner tube with a tyre lever, so a puncture repair kit should be on the cards
Pretty pleased ive got the starting lever working at least!
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Post by TerraRoot on Jan 25, 2011 10:17:01 GMT
Inner tube punctures, RAAAAAAGGH! Glad you got the clutch working, love it when its a simple fix  |
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