Post by wrighty on May 28, 2011 18:11:00 GMT
Quick post to help with jetting your c.v carbs if you've dumped the airbox and running with pod filters and alternative exhaust.
(All info from xjbikes)
MAIN FUEL JET SIZE CHANGES NEEDED PER TYPICAL MODIFICATION:
Typical Exhaust Changes:
+2 main fuel jet size for custom 4-into-2 exhaust
or
+4 main fuel jet sizes for 4-into-1 exhaust
or
+4 main jet sizes for no muffler (open headers)
Typical Intake Changes:
+2 main fuel jet sizes for single K&N filter (inside a stock airbox)
or
+2 main fuel jet size for drilling holes in the airbox with stock filter
or
+4 main fuel jet sizes for individual pod filters (no airbox)
Additional changes:
- Add up all the main fuel jet size increases and subtract 2 sizes.
- Decrease main fuel jet size by 2 sizes per every 2000' above sea level.
- Under a mis-match condition, such as when using pod filters with a 100% stock exhaust, or 4-into-1 header with stock filter and air box, then subtract 2 main fuel jet sizes.
PILOT FUEL JET SIZES CHANGES NEEDED PER TYPICAL MODIFICATION:
Pilot fuel jet size changes are related only to the change in main fuel jet sizes according to the main fuel jet size formula described above. Note that this pilot fuel jet rule is for the main fuel jet size change BEFORE any main fuel jet altitude compensation is factored in:
Increase the pilot fuel jet size +1 for every +3 main fuel jet size increases.
Additional changes:
- Decrease pilot fuel jet size by 1 for every 6000' above sea level.
PRECAUTIONS:
- Make sure your carbs are in perfect working order before making ANY jet changes....meaning fully cleaned internally and rebuilt, operating properly in their stock configuration, proper sized air jets and needles, etc. Otherwise, you'll like find that all of your efforts are going to be a HUGE waste of time.
- Check plug color often and adjust as needed, 2 main fuel jet sizes at a time and 1 pilot fuel jet size at a time. Bright white plug insulators are a sign of an overly lean fuel mixture condition and WILL cause damage to your engine over time, up to and including engine seizure!
- Synch the carbs after each jet change.
- Make sure the floats are set correctly
- Seriously consider purchasing a Colortune Plug Tuning kit.
- You may find it necessary to make changes to the size or shimming of the main jet needle. There are no guidelines on what or how to do these changes, this is true trial-and-error tuning!
EXAMPLE:
A 1982 XJ750RJ Seca using an aftermarket Supertrapp 4-into-1 exhaust and a single K&N air filter in the stock, unmodified airbox. Bike is primarily operated at an altitude of 2600 feet above sea level.
XJ750 Seca Stock Hitachi HSC32 Carb Jetting:
#120 Main Fuel Jet
#40 Pilot Fuel Jet
#50 Main Air Jet
#225 Pilot Air Jet
Y-13 Needle
MAIN FUEL JET SIZE CALCULATIONS:
Changes made:
Exhaust:
4 into 1 with Supertrapp = +4 Sizes Main Fuel Jet
Intake:
K&N Pod Filters = +4 sizes Main Fuel Jet
----------------------------
Equals: +8 main fuel jet sizes above baseline
Subtract: -2 main fuel jet size per formula above
----------------------------
Equals: +6 main fuel jet sizes due to modifications, thus:
Stock main fuel jet size is: #120
+ 6 additional sizes
= a #126 main fuel jet size
---------------------------
Subtract: -2 main fuel jet sizes for Altitude of 2500' Average
= #126 calculated from above
-2 jet sizes for altitude adjustment
= a #124 main fuel jet size.
PILOT FUEL JET SIZE CALCULATIONS:
The formula is: +1 pilot jet size increase for every +3 main jet sizes increased.
Stock pilot fuel jet size is: #40
+ 2 additional jet sizes (since we went up +6 main fuel jet sizes before the altitude compensation was factored in):
= a #42 pilot fuel jet size.
Note that no altitude compensation is needed on the pilot fuel jet since our elevation is less than 6000' a-s-l.
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RESULT:
A #124 Main and #42 Pilot is A GOOD STARTING POINT.
(All info from xjbikes)
MAIN FUEL JET SIZE CHANGES NEEDED PER TYPICAL MODIFICATION:
Typical Exhaust Changes:
+2 main fuel jet size for custom 4-into-2 exhaust
or
+4 main fuel jet sizes for 4-into-1 exhaust
or
+4 main jet sizes for no muffler (open headers)
Typical Intake Changes:
+2 main fuel jet sizes for single K&N filter (inside a stock airbox)
or
+2 main fuel jet size for drilling holes in the airbox with stock filter
or
+4 main fuel jet sizes for individual pod filters (no airbox)
Additional changes:
- Add up all the main fuel jet size increases and subtract 2 sizes.
- Decrease main fuel jet size by 2 sizes per every 2000' above sea level.
- Under a mis-match condition, such as when using pod filters with a 100% stock exhaust, or 4-into-1 header with stock filter and air box, then subtract 2 main fuel jet sizes.
PILOT FUEL JET SIZES CHANGES NEEDED PER TYPICAL MODIFICATION:
Pilot fuel jet size changes are related only to the change in main fuel jet sizes according to the main fuel jet size formula described above. Note that this pilot fuel jet rule is for the main fuel jet size change BEFORE any main fuel jet altitude compensation is factored in:
Increase the pilot fuel jet size +1 for every +3 main fuel jet size increases.
Additional changes:
- Decrease pilot fuel jet size by 1 for every 6000' above sea level.
PRECAUTIONS:
- Make sure your carbs are in perfect working order before making ANY jet changes....meaning fully cleaned internally and rebuilt, operating properly in their stock configuration, proper sized air jets and needles, etc. Otherwise, you'll like find that all of your efforts are going to be a HUGE waste of time.
- Check plug color often and adjust as needed, 2 main fuel jet sizes at a time and 1 pilot fuel jet size at a time. Bright white plug insulators are a sign of an overly lean fuel mixture condition and WILL cause damage to your engine over time, up to and including engine seizure!
- Synch the carbs after each jet change.
- Make sure the floats are set correctly
- Seriously consider purchasing a Colortune Plug Tuning kit.
- You may find it necessary to make changes to the size or shimming of the main jet needle. There are no guidelines on what or how to do these changes, this is true trial-and-error tuning!
EXAMPLE:
A 1982 XJ750RJ Seca using an aftermarket Supertrapp 4-into-1 exhaust and a single K&N air filter in the stock, unmodified airbox. Bike is primarily operated at an altitude of 2600 feet above sea level.
XJ750 Seca Stock Hitachi HSC32 Carb Jetting:
#120 Main Fuel Jet
#40 Pilot Fuel Jet
#50 Main Air Jet
#225 Pilot Air Jet
Y-13 Needle
MAIN FUEL JET SIZE CALCULATIONS:
Changes made:
Exhaust:
4 into 1 with Supertrapp = +4 Sizes Main Fuel Jet
Intake:
K&N Pod Filters = +4 sizes Main Fuel Jet
----------------------------
Equals: +8 main fuel jet sizes above baseline
Subtract: -2 main fuel jet size per formula above
----------------------------
Equals: +6 main fuel jet sizes due to modifications, thus:
Stock main fuel jet size is: #120
+ 6 additional sizes
= a #126 main fuel jet size
---------------------------
Subtract: -2 main fuel jet sizes for Altitude of 2500' Average
= #126 calculated from above
-2 jet sizes for altitude adjustment
= a #124 main fuel jet size.
PILOT FUEL JET SIZE CALCULATIONS:
The formula is: +1 pilot jet size increase for every +3 main jet sizes increased.
Stock pilot fuel jet size is: #40
+ 2 additional jet sizes (since we went up +6 main fuel jet sizes before the altitude compensation was factored in):
= a #42 pilot fuel jet size.
Note that no altitude compensation is needed on the pilot fuel jet since our elevation is less than 6000' a-s-l.
------------------------------
RESULT:
A #124 Main and #42 Pilot is A GOOD STARTING POINT.