Early 60s Peripoli Giuietta Scooter

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A what you say?
Yup i was saying the same thing to myself when i spotted it on e-bay a couple of weeks back
Well not much is on google about these scoots, Im guessing they were not a massive hit


Didnt have clue what it was, and neither did the vendor even tho it had been sitting waiting in his shed for many years. I kept looking it going Mmmm, that would be cool.........bet it ends up out of my price range tho:(
Thing is it didnt go out of my price range despite some frantic last minute bidding on someone elses behalf. I put the Bid in and I got it for about £130.
Now I will point out at this juncture I know diddly squat about scooters.
I know i have always wanted one since seeing a certain film as a Kid
That moment when the computer congratulated me for winning sent my heart a flutter.......
It was one of those moments, Elation that I had just got the bargain of the century was quickly followed by What the f**k have I bought............and how the hell am I going to get it home:lol:

Simple really one folds the seats down and does a 100 mile trip to collect it wrap it up in an old duvet to protect the car and drive it home again

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So what have i got? Well there aint much info on these things for starters.
Its an old scooter, Its Italian, It has a 50cc Franco Morini engine.
It seems to be of similar construction to a vespa I,e Its Monocoque framed at the front.

thats what it is supposed to look like .....pretty huh
The Documents are long gone, it has an engine number but I have yet to find a Chassis number :eek: and im hoping its not on the underside of the frame for reasons that will become clear in a moment.



if its part of that brown paper doily im fooked :lol:

Engine is a Franko Morini even tho it has a plate with Guilietta on it.
Engine seized solid.
Brakes seized solid
Clutch seized solid
Gear selecter on engine seized solid
Gear selecter on bars seized solid
All cables seized solid
Chain seized solid
can you see a patern forming here
Rotten underneath
bits missing.
seat cover completely missing in action
but hey it was cheap

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Here is a copy and paste catch up of what has already been going on from another forum i frequent, so appologies for ny gramatical errors or if it looks like i am superhuman in my restoration and then suddenly not
So what have i done to it so far?
Chain removed, Engine removed.
clutch unseized with a bit of WD on the selecter
gears unseized the same way.
filled the cylinder up with a mix of Oil white spirit and flat Nitro RC Car fuel and that freed off too.
took the back wheel off checked Dog clutch in back wheel, unseized brake drum.
Degreased back half of frame ,wirebrushed all the crap off,deemed it to be solid, hit it in red Oxide for now. more to protect it for now than anything.
wire brushed down the leg shields red oxide again for now so i could see where they needed straightening.
red oxided any bare bits to stop it getting any worse.
Front wheel off Unseized front brake
Panel beat the bent footplate straight so it lines up with the seam on the back of the legshield again. (This will be tack welded back to keep some strength for when I start on the underside unfortunately my welder is at a mates in worthing right now)
so its clean it rolls and the engine turns over
Its all back together you say, well it is and it isnt and theres a reason.

Im allowed to play on the patio to my hearts content .......as long as its not in piles all over it, so im taking a bit off, cleaning it up unseizing it and putting it back on for now.
This aint such a bad thing.
There is no manual and very little in the way of reference to these on the net even.
If i leave it in piles of cardboard boxes I will lose bits and forget how it goes back together :lol:
If i do a bit and put it back i know where i am

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pulled the Head and barrel off, barrel looks good there is very light pitting, honing should see it good as new piston also looks good however one of the rings was corroded in and snapped when I tried to free it.
so a new set of rings is on the cards, probably should anyway if im going this deep.
Bottom end has a little freeplay side to side but at a guess it is well within tollerences. It also looks really good down there and a good flush through should see it good as new.
It all works so I see no reason to disturb it at this time.
Looks like this scooter has been dropped or crashed into something at some stage, and crudely panel beaten back into shape.
So checking frame alignment will be on the cards.
Bent mudguard, legshield and dinks in the rear cowl all line up with it being dropped hard.
I wonder if that is why it go taken off the road.
At a guess it caused its owner some serious injuries?
Looks like someone had a crack as doing a resto or at least recommissioning it at some stage, they got as far as bare metaling some bits and put it away thinking "sod that" by the looks of it
another bit that is missing is the exhaust. it currently has a downpipe and thats it
The carb looks good tho, there is a couple of dried deposits inside but no corrosion to speak of.
so all in all some nasty supprises but some nice ones too

sorry its the wrong way up but it shows the straightened front mudguard.........it took hours to get it that straight, still needs more massaging but its a lot closer than it was.
the thing is since its a buzzy vibratey scooter, if i fill it it will all crack and rattle out . so the less fill the better

straightened footplates lots of hammer and dolly work there

so in all not much progress but Its no race
gear shifter unseized and hit in matt black for now to keep the weather off............one of those jobs that looks like bugger all but I fought the thing for 3 hours on saturday :lol:

eventually the whole thing is getting bare metaled the oxide is just there as a temporary thing to protect it
Ever tried getting spares for an engine that you are not even sure of the model of.
A lot of my time has been cross referencing stuff and trying to find out what engine it is.
So far Its a Franco Morini Motori, I am certain of this as the inside of the head has FM in the casting, this lines up with info Google flashed up
It also has 3M/V stamped on it, Google was not my friend
casing has the engine Number TU-M135 NI-102 on it ...........no combination of these numbers has flashed up any info.
The conrod has Turbo written on it, this was half helpful, this tells me this is a turbine version of the engine (forced cooling like a Beetle not a Turbo as such) the ducting tells me the same thing.
Its a 3 speed manual box on it.
so i have all this info and i am none the wiser as to what model it is and what piston rings to fit to it

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Anyway little by little the scoot is coming back together again.
Its like little bits of it are healing on its sick carcass at the moment :lol:

Refurbed wheel and drum on a perished tyre (I plan to get a set of wide whites for it eventually)



refurbed and repainted shock on an oxide frame.
remember what i was saying about it being a parts bin special.
now I have not checked yet but I could swear that fooked mudguard is the same as a lammy one?



Had a crack at the front end today
Bars off
Forks out
stripped, bare metaled, rubbed down, treated, painted, laquered. rebuilt.



bars stripped cleaned treated and resprayed, cowls stripped cleaned treated red oxided


Grips on order

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so thats where i am at the moment.
This is my first 2 wheeled resto, and dont laugh i have never even ridden a scoot before.
my 2 brief forays into bikes are riding a 77(at a guess) yamaha TS100 when I was about 12 up a garden path and riding an MZ125 around a garage block (I still have that MZ down the bottom of the garden along with an Old Puch Maxi i might get around to when i finish this one )
So am I mad to even attempt this?

[TerraRoot]

sweet, have you welded the under side yet?
Im sure the engine was used in loads of different bikes back in the day, bound to be some hop up parts for it about the place.

[TerraRoot]

this engine? you could do an upgrade to 4 speed

[TerraRoot]

minarelli not franco morini


waiting right now for a forum reg so i can get part/diagrams

If all else fails a minarelli am6 would fit in that space..





far too many hop up kits for an am6 bout the place, go on!

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Aug 31, 2010 15:30:41 GMT TerraRoot said:

sweet, have you welded the under side yet?
Im sure the engine was used in loads of different bikes back in the day, bound to be some hop up parts for it about the place.

Not got to the underside yet im working up to it ;D
Im going to take lots of measurements and make up the repair panels before I start unzipping things.
I did tin bashing when i was 16 so im going to go old school with this one hand forming things.
and, Yup that engine was used in lots of things over the years unfortunately I have yet to work out what model it is

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Aug 31, 2010 16:45:19 GMT TerraRoot said:

minarelli not franco morini


waiting right now for a forum reg so i can get part/diagrams

If all else fails a minarelli am6 would fit in that space..





far too many hop up kits for an am6 bout the place, go on!

Now i could be wrong with my limited knoledge on these things but i am pretty sure i read that quite a few FM and minarelli engine parts are interchangable.......
I could be wrong and it wont be the first time if thats the case
This one definately has FM on the underside of the head so FM is my best guess

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Time for an update again ,I have been off work this week so things are happening
Most of these things have involved bare metal and rust and the treatment of
so i wont bore you with repetitive stuff you probably know more of than I but let the pictures do the talking
Oooh bare metal and clean bare metal........whats that in the bottom corner of the head tube?

Oooh its a number wonder if its the chassis number?

Nah cant be its way too short .........hmmm wonder if i strip the other bit on the facing edge?........

Eat EAT EAT that paint



always use the correct safety gear folks your Uncle Unhinged is a trained idiot and too stupid to stop for chemical burning flesh mind, and Is ARD cos he comes from Slough.

at this point I stopped taking pictures (as did my Wifes covert camera activity)
so rush forward scrape rub paint with rust eater, wipe with thinners prime with weld thru primer (the zinc rich stuff no more rust please)
and Oooh whats this?
A Number a real propper chassis number

hang on i will move back so its in focus

So what other discoveries did I make?
Well that metallic pink was not the original colour
the bike was originally 2 tone Light blue and cream.
nice combo It may well end up back those colours. here is the slithers of truth on a peice of cardboard


Anyway work is about to grind to a halt as the welder is still in Worthing. but i did a cut out to good metal on the main frame today.
The idea is to repair the spine a piece at a time to get some strength back into the frame before I start fiddling about with the underside.
when i plate it i will be following along with oversized gusset peices on the inside to fortify my repairs
Heres the first patch in the frame cut to fit In the hole i made
still a bit of tweaking to do but not bad huh!


I can feel a slight flex in the frame so I will need put the forks back on to eye it up front to back as i go along to make sure it stays straight.

[lewisweaver]

Very, Very good project. Judging by the pictures i can see how much effort and care you have put into it. Is the bike a 2stroke? Also the engine looks very similar to my vespa's engine, But any how best of luck!

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Sept 2, 2010 18:28:14 GMT lewisweaver said:

Very, Very good project. Judging by the pictures i can see how much effort and care you have put into it. Is the bike a 2stroke? Also the engine looks very similar to my vespa's engine, But any how best of luck!

Cheers I have done quite a bit of car stuff over the years but the scooter thing is new to me
The care and consideration thing is down to it being knackered but also pretty much unique.
with that unique thing comes a price and its nothing to do with money throwing ;D
If i mess up where will I find another? I probably wont so everything needs to be done right on this one.
After a week of Googling I have found pictures to suggest there is at least 4 of this Model left in the world including mine.
There may well be more, but i have yet to hear of them.
Luckilly most of the important stuff is looking servicable, but im guessing I will be playing snap on E bay quite a bit
It is indeed a too-smoke.
Im guessing quite a bit of trim ancilaries is going to be parts bin stuff.... the light switch is early vespa for starters, as is the headlamp supposedly (even tho the cowl is stamped Gillera)
The rear lamp is a Mystery tho

[lewisweaver]

Ah well i have a breaker near me and he has a couple of scrap scooters. I believe one might be a triumph tina? and the other one i am unsure of, i'll have a check for you next time and keep you up to date on it. That would be wicked with that minarelli in it, i expect you'd have to re-gear it, but that would go like stink if set up right. A friend of mine has a RS50 with the minarelli engine and it flies. Best of luck mate